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Winner says 'GG' after a big win. Appropriate?
Posted by webmaster 21 Mar 2004 8:27pm     


Quite often we see that verbal sparring arises when a winner says 'GG' after a big win.

The winner may consider 'GG' to be a polite statement while the loser can regard this statement as a patronizing and/or self-congratulatory remark.

What's your opinion?



TY for playing
Posted by Menkman74 (VIP) 21 Mar 2004 10:37pm     


no one will argue that 'gg' is easier for the winner to say compared to the loser. I for one have always just said 'ty for playing' b/c after a game that was extremely one sided ... I felt it is inappropriate to say 'gg' when in fact it was a terrible game. I will ALWAYS say gg (in fact most times i'll comment on it while still playing!) when it is a close and well played game between my opponent and me.

In summary, you are absolutely correct that 'gg' can be taken any way one wants, but the bottom line is, it is sometimes, but not always, typed to actually mean 'good game' and other times yped to just acknowledge and thank the other player for playing. Take it any way you want... or just like anything else, just don't take it at all!

TY/GG
Posted by 22 Mar 2004 3:09pm     


I always say TY GG'S it's just a nice way to be.. You never know what the other person is thinking...So just be nice and say it.

sport?
Posted by Rampage11 (VIP) 22 Mar 2004 4:47pm     


well people ask the question is cards a sport? i think it is but here nore there. we dont sit eye to eye to each other playing we dont talk to each other we use our pc, big differnce if u can c ur opp, and when u cant thats all im saying ......so i no i dont like getting beat or goosed, but i have done it to others,so me 'GG'is only a way to say goodbye and leave the table as a gentlemen win or loose , but if u were in a back room playing cards face to face and sum guy takes ur money on a shut out and is talking trash than u gg is thrown out the window , but were not so u need to b polite,cuz ya never no 1 day u might need to play that player for a ladder spot!!

gg?
Posted by newfie_ (VIP) 22 Mar 2004 6:20pm     


i only use gg in a close 1, if i luck out i will say sorry it was all luck
but not gg due to it may be offenceive to some .
but i always show a polite mannor when i play any 1 weather they talk back <^.,.^>

'THANKS FOR THE ACTION OR GAME'
Posted by (VIP) 22 Mar 2004 8:49pm     


WIN, LOSE OR DRAW - THIS IS ALWAYS ACCEPTABLE AND UNDERSTOOD BY ANY OPPONET IN ANY HEAD TO HEAD $$$ GAME !!!

lol
Posted by MAB 23 Mar 2004 12:49am     


If I lose a game badly I would like to be given the privilege of saying 'gg' myself.
I know if I've been skunked and I don't
really appreciate the opponent congratulating
himself. lol

However, if the game is a close one and well
played by both then I think sometimes 'gg' by
the winner is appropriate and much appreciated.


I think gg is short for ...
Posted by calc_guy 23 Mar 2004 7:23am     


... YOU PLAYED a good game. It can't possible mean *I* played a good game since a good player doesn't want to crow about his skill. There's no profit in that. He wants to salve the ego of the loser, so he'll come back for more.

I almost always say gg, unless the opponent left the table or was very rude in some way.

calc_guy

My Opinion of 'gg'
Posted by PEGASUS 23 Mar 2004 9:14am     


The only time 'gg' bothers me a tad is when I've been SKUNKED. LOL and even then it's not worth getting upset about. Some players apparently do it automatically.. personally when I skunk someone I'm more apt to say 'sorry for the skunk' because I not only hate to BE skunked...I don't like doing it to anyone.

Just thought of something
Posted by PEGASUS 23 Mar 2004 10:31am     


Gin is the only game when 'gg' can mean good gin also, and is often used that way. Also in regards to the 'gh' 'nh' 'g1' etc etc that some use during games, I've been asked by more than one if we could save any remarks until the end of the game as they find them distracting. So I play it by ear and try to keep all happy, but I never leave without either a 'gg' or 'ty for playing'

I agree, Pegasus
Posted by calc_guy 24 Mar 2004 3:15am     


Because of this thread, after a skunk, I've been saying something like 'Sorry I was so lucky,' which is TRUE!

I like jousting back and forth, during a game if the other guy knows how to give and take. But after the first few discards, I'm generally pretty engrossed trying to figure out what the heck the other guy IS DOING with that leeetle 2 o' spades.

calc_guy

'GG' or whatever
Posted by Ed_Blue (VIP) 25 Mar 2004 3:23pm     


This is a funny Forum posting because it seems that too much emphasis is being placed on a meaningless phrase, 'GG', and not enough emphasis is put on good/clean/competitive play. We all know when we play bad or play well and for an opponent to say 'GG' is, in my opinion, just a gesture of good faith. I try to be sympathetic when I win and chose my words carefully. What am I saying? Almost all the players I compete with know me and when a one-sided game happens----so what. It's part of the game. I guess I have have a bit too much faith in the other players because I assume that no bad intentions are meant to be conveyed. Oh yes, I do prefer winning and I am the first to say 'GG' when I lose or the match is close.

Is it 'Good Manners' for a winner to say 'GG' 1st?
Posted by webmaster 29 Apr 2004 2:14pm     


In Gin & in other forums there've been several responses that I did not agree with.
Many players here called the automatic 1st 'GG' (even for a winner after a big win) - 'good manners'

In my book, it's good manners to be considerate of other people's feelings.
When you just had a huge win, is it really good manners to 'rub it in' by being the 1st one to automatically say 'GG' (good game)?
I think it would be more appropriate here to withhold your automatic 'gg' -- just out of 'good manners'.

Thanks Webbie
Posted by Ed_Blue (VIP) 30 Apr 2004 12:00am     


You've driven my point home by htting the nail squarely on the head. The issues are manners and accepted good behavior when inteacting with others. A sign of good faith by either player is a weelcomed sight for me. I don't care if its at the beginning of a match, during a match or after a match. This is the way to acknowledge your opponent.

I believe I'm a bit of an odd-ball about this subject but there is an anomoly I like to discuss. Again, this is my point and I don't subscribe it to anyone else.

I just finished a match with a great gin player. I was ahead significantly in a 200pts 25Tix tourney. He started a comeback and what a comeback it was. He hit 5 staright gins and played incredibly well. The score got to 193:195. I knocked and scored 5 points; 198:195. At that point I typed, 'GL my dear friend'. He responded. I sincerely didn't care who won, although I preferred it to be me. The match was wonderful and either us us deserved the win.

Okay, he won but I was happy for him and the vgg's were flying. He even commented, 'I don't know how I won that match.' DOSMAN, you won it because you played better than me.

Manners, social ammenities and civility are, or should be, part of all of our matches on GC.


Instead of 1st saying 'GG' a 'BIG' winner may...
Posted by webmaster 2 May 2004 4:22pm     


Situation reminder: we have a big winner right after a game who is the 1st one to 'remark' about this game with GG (good game)

In another forum, a player suggested that saying 'GG' was always cool - no matter what. Another player asked for my opinion what to say here.

Instead of 1st saying 'GG' a 'BIG' winner may...

pick one:
* wait for the loser to say something 1st
* say sorry I got lucky here
* just use your imagination and say something that would not offend like being 1st to say:
GG <meaning...congratulations to ME!?> and <I deserved this BIG win!!!>
... it ain't as cool or polite as you may think... Even total silence in this case is preferrable to this 'coolness' and 'pseudo-politeness'


Another suggestion
Posted by calc_guy 3 May 2004 1:34am     


I've been using the abreviation tftg after I win, which I think most people can figure out means 'Thanks For The Game.' One reason I like it is t, f and g are close to one another on the keyboard, so it's easy to type with two fingers and hit ENTER before the opponent storms off in a huff.

calc_guy

My Two Cents, Again
Posted by Ed_Blue (VIP) 3 May 2004 1:00pm     


This is a greta discussion point since it ties in to other points recently raised.

I beleive anything said is better than nothing said. Just the other night I was in a tourney, the 8PM 150pt REG, and I built up a huge lead on my opponent. After every game I said sorry, oops, ouch but always something. I even said GL at the beginning of the match. Oh, I forgot to say that my opponent didn't recognize and respond to any comment I made.

As LUCK would have it, my (un)worthy opponent hit me with a 2nd card gin and got 71 points for him, or her, to take the win.

I responded by 'ouch' and then 'GG'. Remember, I lost. Nothing in response.

I exposed this person in the tourney lobby, not malicously, and finally got a 'GG'.

Its not what you say and when you say it, it's just recognizing your opponent for playing the game. It really doesn't take too much of an effort and the excuse that they don't want to interupt their trains of thought is NG at the beginning and end of a toruney.

Common sense is all that's needed.


which is ruder?
Posted by fjc1962 (VIP) 3 May 2004 4:45pm     


Ever since starting to read this thread and those similar I have been trying to be cognizant of greeting my opponent. About half respond back.

However, which is ruder? Not responding or running after winning (particularly in a $ games - points don't get you much). And there are habitual runners here - the list is getting quite long. BTW, those that do respond I always give a rematch if I win. Those that don't - not. Apologies before hand if I neglect to greet.

FJC
Posted by Ed_Blue (VIP) 3 May 2004 8:48pm     


Bravo !!!

That's why you're a winner. The reason for my postings are to create an awareness of things going on in this great format. If you are more cognizant of the simple greeting I am thrilled and I hope your opponents are also thrilled.

I just got through chatting with another TD. We discussed the ever increasing rudeness we've experienced in just the past two days. The answer, as the wiser TD put it, is to dontinue setting the good examples and teach others to do the same thing. It will take a while but tey'll catch on.

In the meantime, we're going to be the better people and generate that positive feeling in GC.

By the way, it makes winning and losing a bit easier on both sides.

Thanks for your reply


VGG - Ed
Posted by DOSMAN (VIP) 4 May 2004 11:24pm     


I'ts only a good game when it is close, I tend to say TY after a game win lose or draw, and add my comments as appropriate, the problem with waiting for your opponenent to say something first is they may leave without a chance for you to say TY. You should always say TY (full stop) as a bare minimum.

ED tyvm for reminding me of that V V V GG because it was, and i was exausted afterwards (and slightly relieved to have won but at the same time realising I got lucky). Card games are games of luck, however you need to use that luck to your advantage if you want to win more often.



my thinking on this
Posted by sam85 (VIP) 5 May 2004 9:02am     


as all know mew i alway say gg nh win or lose. if u love cards and the game there is a winner and loser suold never be taking as a rub it just a way to say thank and well played.it be rude not to say gg or nh. for the other playerdersive the respeck of that for playing u .we should rember we all stride to be better and friends with all.remeber we play all over world some cant speak are tounge.alway nice to keep open mind never get mad for a none responce . just a thought from the master sam85 ps. master j/k i just a bum lol



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