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Things that bother me in Gin Room
Posted by Arubahhh (VIP) 30 Jan 2005 9:04pm     


I need to vent peacefully!

- Players who don't have the courtesy to say hi or gg after you initiate it
- Taking 10 or more seconds between moves
- Taking my discard just to knock
- You think it means something b/c your rating's high?? Stop it! $$ YES, Ratings, NO.
- Players who only play you if you have a losing record
- People who turn but never signal (sorry, I drifted for a second)
- Players who are 'away' yet still have an open table
- And the number one thing that bothers me: the few $$ players who lose games on purpose and think you won't notice.

Other than that, let's play!



Pet Peeves in gin
Posted by onlyirish02 (VIP) 31 Jan 2005 5:09am     


In reply to your message: sometimes I wait a hand or two before knocking so when I do decide that I'm going to knock and you happen to throw a card lower then mine, of course I'll trade it to knock with, thats part of the game.There's been many a time I've waited on a low card so I could knock as in Oakloma.I certainly don't mean to offend you or anyone when that happens.and I never recall seeing anyone play someone because they have a losing record infact I see the opposite to where they perfer to play someone who has a winning record. And I wish someone would play me and lose on purpose, I would love it, even if I didn't understand their reasons if there is such a person. I do understand what you mean about a open table yet their set as away, Ive been guilty of that a few times myself because I;ve had to run to the restroom or my phone rang, or perhaps I don't want to hurt anyones feelings but really don't want to play the lower(rated) person seeking to play me. Of course this is all just my opinion, and for now on I'll close my table rather then put away.
Thanks,
onlkyirish02

Venting is good
Posted by (VIP) 31 Jan 2005 6:44pm     


I think your venting was put quite eloquently and I do agree with everything you said except for the picking up your discard to knock. The game is knock rummy and I thought like you that it was in bad taste to do this. However, I found out from many sources that the best way to win is to knock, knock, knock and if you are playing Oklahoma, well any way you get there is good. So good for you for knocking the slow, the inconsiderate and the plain bad mannered players, but if you want to win more often, well, when in Rome. Good luck and hope to see you soon.

hi ,here a way to think about it too.
Posted by sam85 (VIP) 1 Feb 2005 5:21pm     


i know some times it feel like players are rude ,but just a thought here some mite not have game table chat . some mite not know how to say gg or talk at gc. some take 10 sec do too netdelays. some times u play a losing rec. just to hope to win on a bad day (do to them losing games) and on last one some times some one mite lose cause u played well and they feel u deserved to win the game. alway a nother way to look at everthing in life . so think good thought. and good thing come to those with good thoughts just my way of dealing with it sam85

Small point of clarification
Posted by Arubahhh (VIP) 1 Feb 2005 8:41pm     


I need to CLARIFY the last thing that bothered me in my original post. I meant that it bothered me that players will lose FREE games on purpose thinking you wont notice and see the difference between their overall record and their $$ games record which is kept separately.

Hope that makes more sense cause hey, no one will lose the TICKET games on purpose, unless it's the very few who dont mind throwing the 1/2 ticket games, but those are the ones that play for high stakes... after all what's losing 10 half tickets when you are playing 50 ticket games right?!

Sam, my response to you is as follows. When i refer to slow players, i am not referring to the net delayed as I understand that. I am referring to the ones who 'ping' out to less than a second, meaning they are connected properly. My point on players who just play others with a losing record is not a 'sometimes' thing, but an 'all the time' thing. And LOL, no one will lose on purpose b/c they felt I played well and I deserve it Although that did give me a smile. Thanks.

Even the TD's act this way now!!
Posted by katz2u 22 Feb 2005 9:08pm     


I just played a TD- I believe his former name was (edited).. anyway no hi's gg's etc as I have become accustomed to the lack of courtesy in these rooms now and no longer expect it.

However he won the game and we both said gg. he then requested another game which I won and he immediately left the table without so much as a word.

I did pm him to say jeesh different scenario when you lose no gg nothng etc just abruptly leave! He never reposonded.

So even the 'good guys' carry on the rude behaviour!

I Had a Hunch....
Posted by Ed_Blue (VIP) 23 Feb 2005 1:48am     


Last week, the great Kaylasmom, and I do mean that, asked me to get back into the chat game. I should have guessed she was about to jump in herself with an interesting posting.

I have a comment, as usual, on almost everything stated but I'd like to address the remarks made by Katz2u if I may.

I've just come off an incredible losing steak, I hope, and it does tend to wear on you a bit when you do everything 'right', pull great cards and lose to everyone. As most of you know, I always acknowledge my opponent and very rarley criticize except for the exceptions.

I've played this TD and known him when I was a TD and he is a gentleman. I'm shocked that he didn't acknowledge your comments and there must have been a good reason for it; like you pulling things out of nowhere to win.

Frustration is part of this wonderful game. I duel with probably the very best players on GC. There is one opponent that is probably #1, although he doesn't say it, and every time we play he seems to pull cards like the hands gin players dream of.

The other night, he even admitted that he seems to pull great cards against me and stated 'I'd rather be lucky than good.' My reply was simple, 'I agree but when you're lucky and good, that's a bad thing.'

He beat me handily and when we returned to the Tourney main room he said the score was '200-188'. I laughed and told him he's a better player than liar. In other words, this game runs in cycles and sometimes it's tough being the nice guy all the time especially when you're up against a TD. They have an extra burden and there are no exceptions. Must have been a bad game. He is a great guy.

Thanks Mom.....I enjoyed this

No Ed
Posted by katz2u 23 Feb 2005 7:11pm     


I never had great cards.. I had to work at it.. his hands first game were phenomonal as usual and I have played him in the past and he was always great AND pleasant!!.. but his rudeness made me upset cause I always thought he was a nice guy.. guess I have been away too long and havent seen all the changes here.

on td being rude
Posted by sam85 (VIP) 24 Feb 2005 8:52am     


sry all i need to responed to this. one i am a td i am one of the longest one here expt.3 others
so u can sayi been here a while and with a new baby coming ill be here running for another 18 years more. but at to rude td .this i have to dis agree for one thinki play games alway said gg tyfg and a good 1/3 of them never got seen do to mia on chat do to an over load witch we all get. so some timesthe player u played cant see ur gg. but to say a td rude is un fair. one thing we take are time to make sure gc players have tourneys.or if u need help we answer ? or do what we can tomake ur stay here at gc fun.and we dont get paid for it we get a tip but for the job we do is not for money like other jobs u cant work her 40 hours and buy what u would need.so to say even the good guys are rude too is justun fair we never rude to be smart it was just a frozen chat.rember that we give up time just for u all to have fun and injoy the games. if we was rude not love u all or games.then why would we be td (not for money for the loves of the games and friends we makehere at gc. so please befor jumping to say td are rude.should think that something else is wrong. like frozen chat. tyvm sam85(td)

again I disagree
Posted by katz2u 24 Feb 2005 6:43pm     


as i wrote to him in PM after the game to ask why ?? he posted about upcoming tourney but never responded to me and he was in room several minutes after the game.

he left immediately after I won so it was just a huff.. I guess we all get that but it was coming from a TD and I WAS HERE FROM THE BEGINNING OF GC!! under a different user name back then so I know he used to be a nice guy!!

I never complain but was upset by his behaviour and felt the ned to vent! enough said!


AH HA - Now the story plays out.....
Posted by Ed_Blue (VIP) 25 Feb 2005 12:47am     


My dearest Katz, I now understand your point and I must admit that I've noticed it quite a few times before. I hate to use myself as an example but I must in this case.

When I was a TD I alloacted 45 minutes prior to any tourney I was running to advertisding the upcoming event. During that time I was in the Main Room doing what we call 'ADDY' and since I was a relatively likeable player I received and incredible number of Invitations. I always made it a point to turn all of them down and explain that I was running a tourney at 8PM, or whatever time it happened to be, and invited that player to join me in the tourney room.

On more than one occassion, another TD sent Invites to me and I remember one in particular, who is a TD now, that commented, 'your tourney doesn't start for another 30 minutes.' I explained that I devote 100% of my time to Addy and try to get as many players in ther tourney as possible. I also told players that I would rather concentrate on having a great and fun tourney for all players than play myself. Maybe I was wrong but I did respect my position and the other players.

There are TD's that play right up to 5 minutes beforetheir tournies. More power to them. They are great people but they do have a tendency, not all of them, to forget their social amenities when trying to shuffle between a personal match and a tourney.

In other words, when you added the statement of him 'running a tourney' the lights went on and his manners were focused on the tourney and not on his match with you.

HE (edited)is a great person but I do side with you on this point. I kind of thought there was something more to the story to make him react that way. Now I know why.

Okay, I'm certain that I'm going to get a barrage of replies from all the TD's. To those of you that know me, you know my standards were always set high and I always maintained that playing and running a tourney, including pre tourney Addy, do not mix.

Wow, I wonder what responses I'm going to get on this one.....lol


katz2u
Posted by sam85 (VIP) 25 Feb 2005 10:35am     


i am sry that this has happen. as to ur pm the td most likly what hapen u pm td someone esle posted please join table td posted add for tourney.do to up grades we can not make chat side bigger any more even on a pm .with an add beening posted. ur pm was never seen .this happen all time un less u scrol chat u can miss a pm easy now .i tell all if i not reply it do to this fact.but to said it rude .is just wrong. as i stead be for i main job is runing tourneys for all the players.andwe do miss chat lines i miss so much my self but when i ask again i explain how chat can go bye with me seeing it . so am i rude for missing some chat. i never try to be but some times it happen to no falt of the td or player u mite be trying to talk to. but this my thought and all can have their owen ways of thinking.and as u steaded u was here from start i was here a year late.but been here ever day . my main point is this befor a term like rude td used it should be base on all that td has done and if only one time u not get a gg or ty . does not cancel out all that td done .it more likly it was a miss chat.esp . when the td alway tryes to say gg or nice play for years like i done.

sam85

pet peeves
Posted by (VIP) 14 Mar 2005 11:31pm     


Why would anybody lose on purpose?

excellent question!
Posted by Arubahhh (VIP) 15 Mar 2005 12:10am     


and I'll be so glad to answer it as the more I can educate the better off we are. Players will lose on purpose dzaffron so their record looks a lot worse than their true ability. Now when I say on purpose, I am not talking about the $$ games (although I have seen the high stakes $$ players lose 1/2 ticket games on purpose as that is considered petty cash if you can believe that), but rather the free games that don't mean anything. So if you double click a players name, you can see both their 'free games record' and their $$ or 'mini-tourny' record. You will see some players just so happen to have such a disparity between the two that it is ridiculous. If you take the overall record and just subtract it from the $$ record, you will obviously get their free games record. Try it in the room on different VIP players. HINT: You will see it more on the 'high stakes' players... the ones who usually play for $25 and up. Hope that answers your question.

Things that bother me in Gin Room
Posted by The_Whistler 15 Mar 2005 11:31am     


I came to the gin room to learn how to play a month ago and was unpleasantly surprised by the rudeness of some of the players.

In the cribbage room nearly everyone says 'hi' or 'gl' before playing.

In the month I've been here no-one has and I gave up myself after half a dozen expressions of goodwill were ignored.

After a few weeks of see-sawing between a rating of 1250 and 1450 I reached 1500 and tried to play a guy with an open table whose rating was 1750+.

The first time I tried he just cut me off.

I tried again and got the message 'give me a break'. I sent a message back saying 'i'm only after a game' to which he replied 'Get a decent rating then'

Surely everyone started somewhere and if this is the attitude of players here then I think it is really bad.

For my own part I will play anyone who wants to play me, after all its only a game !!

Hi Whistler
Posted by Ed_Blue (VIP) 21 Mar 2005 1:31am     


Everything you stated is correct until your very last statement; 'It's only a game.'

GC is an obsession with quite a few players. Some of the very best players have admitted to almost being addicted to the 'game'. There are three distinct groups in GC:

1) Those that play for profit
2) Those that play for rating
3) Those that play for fun

I can understand both #2 and #3 but cannot understand the 'profit motivated player.' I have the privilege of being in communication with quite a few players and was also a TD for a while. One player told me of his/her withdrawals of thousands of dollars a month. I responded by saying, 'wow, that's wonderful' but I never believed that this particular player laying in wait for the 'sucker' to play him/her that the amounts were accurate.

The 'Rating Player' is actually the most compulsive, in my humble opinion, and will do anything to maintain that majestic positon on 'top of the heap'. There was one player that would play anyone but refused to play a RATED game with anyone beneath himself by more than 300 points. He attained the goal of becoming #1; and now is a legend in his own mind.

This is a strange site with strange people. MOst of them are simply wonderful but some are fierce competitors even though they may play the game of GL/GG/TY etc.

Some should write a book about the personalities of the GC player. Who knows, this site may be another Texas Hold-em in the making.


Chatting while playing....
Posted by JdotRO 19 Apr 2005 8:41pm     


As in gg or gl....half the time I don't notice that the player has said something...the chat screen is so small...it would be nice if the other player's words came up a different color or if the chat flashed when someone types in something...and sometimes I am just not in the mood to talk...I'm there to play the game and if I had a third arm and second head so that I could do two things at once it might be a different story...does that make me rude? If something of interest happens in the game I will comment...but even IRL when I play cards, I don't always chat while I am playing...maybe that's just me...but I don't think of it as being rude and sometimes I am glad that the other player does not say anything....


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