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Posted by
Ed_Blue
(VIP) 4 Jun 2005 11:54pm
It's been quite a while since I've posted and ironically things haven't changed too much over the past few months. The subject is 'RUDE PLAYERS'.
Those of us who've been with GC for a while know that ratings swing if you play enough games and also accept games with players 'on their way up'. The Penalty is that the players that would welcome your challenge when your ratings are high seem to fear a challenge from a lower rated player. Don't get me wrong, it's perfectly okay to choose who you play with but it would be nice if the challenged player would be courteous enough to ask you to leave rather than use the 'OUT' button.
I am one of those that recognize when a player doesn't want to play me and I say 'KK', 'TY', and 'BYE'. I got the message. But when I'm 'OUTED' I feel it personally and consider it bad manners. I know GC won't let me name players but I was in the high 1500's and was outed by three players in a row. That is downright rude.
I know it was suggested many moons ago but I will request it once again; Please eliminate the 'OUTING' option it does nothing other than make players angry.
I am keeping my own list and when my rating goes up, which it will, I will be thrilled to 'OUT' these players but I will tell them why.
What is your opinion of thisn situation?
Ban Button.............
Posted by
(VIP) 5 Jun 2005 12:58am
I have to agree with Ed_Blue in regards to the Ban button. I see no good in it, and although I just laugh to myself when it happens, I don't like it. I've NEVER used it and never will (even to get back at those that do) 
These players that don't want just anybody to join them should be setting a private table, and inviting who they want to play. That would eliminate the need for the ban button. Or maybe they get some perverse pleasure from doing it...they probably kick cats out of their way too. LOL
Well Put Ben....
Posted by
Ed_Blue
(VIP) 5 Jun 2005 10:07pm
I would not have been as kind. I would have said 'elderly or infirm people' instead of cats.
Thanks for your reply.
Just as I expected....
Posted by
Ed_Blue
(VIP) 7 Jun 2005 8:48pm
My rating is coming up and it's just a matter of one or two wins before the so-called 'hitters' will be challenging me. I can't wait.
OUT BUTTON?
Posted by
(VIP) 8 Jun 2005 12:21am
OUT BUTTON?
Posted by
(VIP) 8 Jun 2005 12:32am
I agree with the GENTLEMEN. And they are, indeed, well-spoken gentlemen. I totally agree with each of them. If you don't want to play, that's fine. Make up something and tell me you don't want to play me because of my lower rating. Better yet, be truthful and tell me the real reason. I would prefer that.
You must remember, that as easily as your rating went up, it can easily come down. And then you will have less players to play with. Remember, all of us are here for peace and enjoyment. Webmaster and company have given us the best site on the web. So be a good sport and just play everyone that wants a challenging game. Your shoes may be on the other feet next time you want to play. For me, I'm looking for the Ed Blues of gin and wish everyone a gin of a good time. Besides, a player with a low rating can have a better ladder.
KC_Lady
Posted by
Ed_Blue
(VIP) 8 Jun 2005 8:42pm
A true lady.
Thanks for your response and the obvious fact these 'elite of gin', or so they think, can't seem to realize the extent of fluctuation in ratings. Over the past two days I have placed second in three tourneys; 2 HR tourneys and one 8OM tourney. If I would have won last night's HR tourney my rating would have been higher than two of the three that used the BAN button on me. I lost to one of the very finest players in GC and there was no disgrace in losing to a great player. You see, if I won I would have gained enough rating to be at the high 1600 range.
Those of you that know me realize that ratings and ladder-position mean absolutely nothing to me. I play for the 'good-game.' I understand that losing is part of the game and I have no regrets losing to any player that outplays me. The quality of the game is what's important and that's the issue. I happen to know more of the GC players than most and see the great-ones fluctuate between 1450-1800. The range is predicated on them playing that quality game and not playing for rating.
I feel sorry for those that feel so superior because of a number that all of us have been well beyond during our tenure. Just a quick hint, it's easy to see where we've been and that's more important than where we are.
Thanks again for your response. BTW, the BAN button should be eliminated. It serves no good purpose. If you don't want to play a person say so; that's the mature thing to do.
It's A Miracle
Posted by
Ed_Blue
(VIP) 13 Jun 2005 11:13pm
I just don't understand it. Once you go over 1,600 you become sooo popular. Now I'm waiting for the ones on the infamous LIST....
Okay, I'll play anyone except those few.
Hi Ed & company
Posted by
noIdont
15 Jun 2005 11:55pm
Interesting notes you have there. I have not had a problem playing gin with anyone so far other than those wanting to protect their ladder ranking and my ratings in gin are in the 1400-1600 range. So far so good but then again not on all that often there. But I have an interesting one for you.
I am a much better backgammon player and in that area a player had a 2350 rating and was playing X-rated game. So I asked why would anyone play of the game doesn't count for anything and he was brash enough to say that I should be priviledeged just to play him seeing as though my rating was in the 1700 range. I politely told him that I would gladly play him anytime and that his rating just means to me that he doesn't play anyone below him to prevent chances for a ratings drop. Funny how I watched his name after that and for months he was on line and logged in but his wins and losses never changed--> all non--rated games. Nice way to keep a high inflated rating. I understand the system now. He and those with high ratings can't play in tournaments either or their ratings will drop--tournament players are tough.
Have a good day.
'Ban' Option
Posted by
Chrisytime
(VIP) 31 Jul 2005 10:45pm
I have never posted anything here. But, I do need to reply. Ed, you are a wonderful and polite player but there are at least 50% of very rude and slow players in this room. There are the ones that deliberately sit there for a full 30 seconds to one minute to choose whether to take or play a card. It drives me crazy. I also have a list of those that I will not play because frankly I do not have 45 minutes to play a game of gin. But, when the slower players do join your table and you say 'no ty' they continue to sit there and you either have to boot them or leave your table that you are having good cards at. What do you do?
WOW.....
Posted by
MADoolin
(VIP) 1 Aug 2005 4:03am
WOW... ALOT SAID....TRUTH MAY HURT!
LOL
GOOD READING, GOOD WRITING!
MADoolin(TD)
NOLDOT
Posted by
Ed_Blue
(VIP) 3 Aug 2005 2:02am
Thanks for your reply. I haven't been on the site for a while and its good to get back. Your note about that 'Highly Rated' Backgammon player reminds me of a wonder player who played gin the same way. Most of you know who I'm talking about, he is an actuary, and stayed around until he reached the highest level only.
My opinion is very basic. If this makes them happy, so be it. The statement about 'the privelege of playing him' is laughable. Those of you that know me know what I'm talking about. All talk. Don't let it bother you just keep on playing; keep on winning; and maybe someday he'll play you.
In other words, enjoy the good ones since there are plenty on GC.
Chrissytime
Posted by
Ed_Blue
(VIP) 3 Aug 2005 2:09am
Thanks for the kudos and I must admit it has always been a pleasure doing battle with you. You are a perfect example of what's good in GC since a loss to you is nothing to be ashamed of. The issue of the player that just won't go away is a problem. I would try and explain the reason you don't want to play them and if they still refuse to leave....you close out the table. The BAN option is a losing thing and is an insult to any intelligent player who can understand the words, 'no thank you' or 'sorry.'
Chrissy I am keeping that list and I added two more just this evening. One of the people thatignored me, rated 1750+, came back to me after I politely told him that I understood and thanks and then 'BYE'. We played three matches and I won two of them. Uh oh, I'm now in that twighlight zone of the mid 1600. Now I will be in demand. Come one and all.....
Hi MA....
Posted by
Ed_Blue
(VIP) 3 Aug 2005 2:12am
I've been playing you for years and don't know if it's 'MA Doolin' or 'MAD oolin'. Either way its a pleasure to do battle with you. The Forum used to be a great place to chat and I sincerely hope it gets back top where it was.
You can see I'm not exactly a 'wall-flower'.
Points well made
Posted by
LiLBear1
(VIP) 4 Aug 2005 11:42am
I have to agree with all of you on alot of these points... I'll be advertising for a tourny and get invited to a game... IF I have the time .. I'll play, but to get invited and then kicked out because they decided they didn't like my rating is kind of harsh and extremely rude in my eyes..TD or not. You could always check my rating before you even send the dang invite. I'm not overtly fond of that button myself.
Oh and ED... he can't spell... it's MAD DOOLIN.. lol
cuz he is mad!!
LiLBear
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