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It Must Be Something In The Air.....
Posted by Ed_Blue (VIP) 10 Aug 2005 8:51pm     


After having gone through the motions of speaking about rude players I hit the very worst a few minutes ago. This is a highly rated player that set up a challenge in the main-room for 200-OKIE-LD-40Tix. I accepted his challenge and started enjoying what seemed to be a well balanced match. The lead swung back and forth. I then jumped ahead with the score being something like 180-120. Yup, the God of Cards edelat me a great workable hand and I got gin after the 10th or so card.

I hit 'Continue: and said 'GG'. He replied, 'How can you say that?'. I smiled and asked him 'to hit Continue' which signified my win. He refused and I responded with 'lol'. He then passed on an unwarranted obscene statement to me and hit Continue.

I reported the player and hope he is dealt with approproiately. I would love to publish his name but I know it will be, rightfully so, cut out.

I'll just add him to my favorite list.

Has this happened to any of you?

unsportsmanlike conduct
Posted by (VIP) 10 Aug 2005 11:56pm     


Ed I've played against you in many tourneys and you always seem to be in wonderful spirits win or lose.

What gets me is that a certain player who happens to be ranked VERY HIGH right now (I won't point fingers at anybody) has never wished anybody a good game nor will he even set up a ladder match unless he is trailing somebody in the ladder.

I have found that a lot of the newer players start by wishing the opponent good luck and saying gg at the end but after awhile it seems like its always about the money.

Dzaffron
Posted by Ed_Blue (VIP) 11 Aug 2005 3:40am     


I can't believe I wrote a brilliant reply to you posting listing 18 points any GC players should know and I lost it. It's a bit too late to try and find. What it stated is that Gc is not a place to earn your living. I know one very dear friend that claims to have a system that ends up with him withdrawing money from GC. He preys on the lower rated players with record of below 50%.

Earlier this evening I chatted with a very dear friend We play for the game and the competition and losing is part of the overall formula of the game. The longest winning streak I was on is 10 but that is a real task.

I feel sorry for those that don't know how to lose gracefully. They may belong in Vegas but certainly will not make a fortune on GC. The reason is that too many players have their own method of playing. Some of these strategies make no sense to me but they win. Its probably mis-direction that makes them win but they will lose in th overall scheme of things if they play alot.

The issue is rudeness. I certainly don't play for the money but I thoroughly enjoy a great match with players at all levels. If the match is good I always say 'GG' snd 'TY'. If I schneide you I say 'I'm sorry, I've been a bit hot lately. It never hurts to be nice and your opponents will get top enjoyment playing with you. It's easy to turn people off and that's whats happening lately at all levels of play. Its too bad but that also is part of the game.

I feel sorry for the players that can't accept defeat. It only shows me that they may think they're the very best players but they are not. You will know them when you get the misfortune of playing them. I keep a list and refuse to play them.

Last night I was matched up with a dear GC friend who is a wonderful player. Her opening comment to me was.'it figures that I would end up playing the best GC player on my first game back.' I don't consider me to be the best but you will know you've had a war on your hands when you play me.

Tp make this short, enjoy the games and let the wins and losses fall where they may and don't be afraid to be a nice person.

rudeness
Posted by bejayuk 11 Aug 2005 12:04pm     


I am not a good player, so I do not play for money, I am not a good loser, but I always try to lose with good humour if possible, I think your last post regarding friendship on GC is exactly right, I find myself annoyed by players who refuse to reply to greetings, and then log off immediately after winning, without a goodbye or even a 'kiss my *** loser', but this must not detract from the really good humoured players who try to make up the balance.
Glad thats out of the way, thank you.

Bejayuk
Posted by Ed_Blue (VIP) 11 Aug 2005 3:00pm     


Thanks for your reply and by saying you're not a good player means that you are a good person and probably are or will become a great player in the very near future. The 'quick kill' or 'hit and run' player only has one motive and that is to make money. I am certain that the antics they use in GC would never be tolerated in their real lives. In other words, I am calling them 'whimps' and 'gutless wonders' who need the protection of the computer to stay between them and the people they wouldn't dare face in person.

Your comment about the bad ones not retracting from the good people is what I would like to believe but that old saying about that 'one bad apple' comes to mind. I'm willing to bet that people remember bad experiences much easier and longer than pleasant experiences.

I am an optimist and enjoy GC. No, I'm not a lonley or dependant person that needs to hook on to something like a website for companionship. I post to the Forum on things I believe bother me as much as they bother others. In a perefect world all people would be able to get along together but this is not a perfect world.

Come join me in a match, I'd enjoy it.



dzaffron
Posted by Ed_Blue (VIP) 11 Aug 2005 3:33pm     


It's amazing that I also enjoy playing with people that are nice and if you get lucky you may even get a nice player that can teach you a trick or two. I have to agree with your observation but I'm sorry to say there are quite a few more than just one.

I never thought I's stupe low enough to have to keep a list of players that I refuse to play with but that list is growing. The player I had the incident with yesterday is trying to play right now but no-one seems to want to play with him and that's a good thing.

If enough of us refuse to join and/or accept a challenge from those certain players they may get the message.

I've sent a note to GC using 'Contact Us' and can't wait to hear what the are going to do about that player. It is funny that certain words are blocked by GC. When I was playing pool I did something that I had to use the word 'balls' and it was blocked. Now that is funny. You can use initials but say a word like 'balls' and you're blocked. I wonder what we are supoposed to call those 'things' we hit on the pool table?


Another One .....
Posted by Ed_Blue (VIP) 11 Aug 2005 8:38pm     


Okay, it's not me this time. A very dear GC friend of mine who is the consumate gentleman all the time told me during a recent tourney that he played a woman and won. That was his mistake; winning that is.

She didn't say 'TY' but something close.

I asked my friend if he reported it to GC and he said no. This is a real gentleman but in this scenario he is wrong. I'm doing for him if he gives me the name of the player.

sportsmanship skills
Posted by ginner (VIP) 12 Aug 2005 10:06pm     


Ed, I've been pretty lucky in that I've only got one player on my no-play list. I agree that being a 'good loser' is a skill that some players need to work on, but there's NEVER an excuse or reason for name-calling or profanity. After all, it's only a game.

I get a little aggravated at the hit/run players, but it's their right to do so. If they think it helps their rating (or tickets) to play one game matches, maybe it does.

By far the majority of players are courteous and a pleasure to play. This site offers too much enjoyment for me to let a handful of bad sports ruin it. GGS GL

Ginner
Posted by Ed_Blue (VIP) 13 Aug 2005 12:29am     


Very well put Ginner and I guess I should become a bit more thick-skinned than I am. The truth of the matter is that these things don't really bother me. My point is that the 'exceptions' should be discussed to make certain that all the better players, those that play the game without using obscenities and are not rude, don't get the idea that all of us are like 'them'.

I never minded being associated with GC and have recommended many new players without the 'finders' fee'. Those are the players that I worry about. They have no impression other than what we tell them or what they might experience as beginners.

As far as your comment about gin being 'just a game', you are right again. The but, and there always are buts, is that there are some that assume they are God's gift to the game and they are 'unbeatable.' WRONG.

A good player swings and those valleys can be very deep. The variable in a great match is cards. I've recently played some incredibly good matches with great cards but, naturally, I didn't win every hand. I could have blamed my opponent but without merit.

I have taken off weeks at a time when it seemed that I couldn't get out of my own way to come back and play wonderfully. The key is, if you can't take the losses with the wins, don't play.



clarification
Posted by ginner (VIP) 13 Aug 2005 1:03am     


Ed, I'd like to clarify my previous post. As I read it back, it kinda sounds like I'm preaching. I'm really not. I agree with your post about rude players and was just trying to explain my attitude toward them and how I look at the game. I'm looking forward to more games with all of you. my best, ginner

Too Chatty.............
Posted by jag-girl 13 Aug 2005 7:20pm     


I've been playing quite along time now and I generally keep to myself. It's not that I am unfriendly, but rather; that I play this game to relax and 'get away from it all'. I try to remember to wish a good luck and almost never forget to express 'gg'. I would never dream of being angry with someone because I lost. That's pretty silly........ I have to say though, there are the occasional times when I find some players to be 'too chatty'. I'm trying to pay attention to the game, and some chat excessively. I don't want to be rude so I make effort to respond. Of course, in doing so, I usually lose the game because I am distracted!
A few years ago one player called me a snob because I didn't answer his/her questions. Actually, I didn't even notice they were talking to me until they were already angry.
A little desperate, don't you think......
How about those players that overdue their friendliness a bit? Shouldn't they be in a chat room someplace..........or, calling 1-900-babe

JAG-Girl
Posted by Ed_Blue (VIP) 13 Aug 2005 8:45pm     


Great reply.

Some time ago there was a great, and I mean that, player that would chat all you want until the match started. Once the match started it was all business. During one match after he played a great hand I said 'vnh'. His reply was, 'I don't mean to be rude but I don't chat during matches.'

This didn'at offend me at all butm it did tell me how that player wanted to play the game and that 100% okay with me. We played quite often after that with no chat, during the match, and some superb matches.

'Snob' is a bit strong especially if you say 'GL', 'Hi' or 'GG'. I feel its a common courtesy to acknowledge your opponent but that's just my opinion. I enjoy most matches except those that I consistantly draw great cards and consistantly lose. That's not the players' fault, it's that dealer.

Something wrong?
Posted by Ed_Blue (VIP) 14 Aug 2005 9:09pm     


It must be something I'm doing wrong because in the past half hour I added 2 more players to my list. One was in a tourney who wouldn't even acknowledge my existance; although he's not required to. The other one was a moderatley rated 100-Reg-No Tix player who was obviousely hit-and-run. I asked, 'why not say gg or gl or hi or glir?' No reply. Must be brain dead.

What scares me is that this rudeness thing is getting contagous. This is one of the reasons I've considered quitting the site in the past. GC is too good a site to be ruined by these losers.

I guess I still continue to be that optimist.

Me too jag-girl
Posted by (VIP) 14 Aug 2005 9:31pm     


I'm having a hard time understanding the problem to tell you the truth. I love the game and I think I'm a polite player. I never fail to say hi gl before starting and gg or whatever is appropriate after, but I'm not offended if it's not reciprocated. I could really care less, and agree with you about chat during the game being distracting. I've been asked by more than one to hold chat (which I would have anyhow) so we're not the only ones that prefer a quiet game.

The only thing that I really find offending is use of that BAN button. I feel that is rude and hurtful, but I try to take that in stride too. I keep telling myself it's JAG (just a game) lol

Charlie-Dog
Posted by Ed_Blue (VIP) 14 Aug 2005 11:47pm     


It's always a pleasure playing against you or in the same tourney. Chat during the game is not the issue, it's just the basic amenities acknowledging the fact that there is another human being on the other side of the computer. As a matter of fact chat doesn't bother me at any time but once it did and I just asked to 'cool it' during the tourney.

Not replying and being rude are two different things. If I say 'Hi and GL' I expect an answer. If I don't get one it doesn't stop me from playing. If I win or lose I say 'GG' or 'sorry' or something. If I still don't get an answer I still go on living. I can say that chat or no-chat doesn't affect my game at all.

I always had a very large staff reporting to me and I always expected basic human response from everyone. As a matter of fact, in one position I had mirrors installed in cubicles so the person could see him or herself while handling customer issues. You'd be surprised at the positive results.

The computer is the wedge, or weapon, of a nasty person that doesn't have the guts to face his or her daily contacts. The odds of ever meeting an online contact is remote.

The 'BAN' button should only be allowed for TD use and that is it. I agree, it is offensive. When I join a table and the player doesn't respond to me I say, 'KK' and 'BYE'. That's enough. To be banned even sounds miserable.


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