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Posted by
Ed_Blue
(VIP) 16 Aug 2005 11:03pm
As usual, Charlie-Dog is correct. When a Forum posting gets too large it's too cumbersome to follow so let me start the third thread to my original Posting with an experience I had just after the 8PM tourney.
I was blasted by one of the very best players on GC in the tourney. She seemed a bit shy for her but I did respond during the tourney to her incredible play. She commented about my playing manners, favorable, and I thanked her for yet another lesson in gin. I believe she Schneided me or very close to it.
I went into the main room after saying my TYFT and GLIR to the remaining players and found a game that looked interesting. It was 150_OKIE_15tix_LD. I entered the room and, as usual, said 'Hi and GL'. No response from my opponent. He must have known the dealer because he went through me like a hot knife through butter. I was able to take a few hands and managed to get to just over 100 when he won.
I posted, 'GG'. Nothing in repsonse. He just waited. I asked him to say something, anything. It could have been 'sorry', 'gg', 'want to play another' or anything after the beating I took. He left the table, his table without a word.
In my mind's eye, this turned a winner into an instant loser. He stuck around the room for at least 2 minutes. He could have said something. He was a 1700+ rated player. This was not a newbie and he should have known better. He stayed in the Main Room for a while, at IDLE, and I contacted him directly telling him what the very least effort on his part could have been to let him join the human race. Again, nothing.
Okay JAG-Girl, maybe he had no fingers and couildn't type in 'TY' or 'GG' or anything but something was in order. Yes this is only my opinion and yes, I can be as wrong as the weather we've been having this summer but the story goes on and on. Every day there is a new find and it does sicken me. I may consider either cutting down on the number of games I play or just play those that I know.
My infamous list has 8 names on it in mid July. Granted that's not alot when you consider the numbetr of games I play but it is becoming a more prelavent act and it should be addressed by those that believe in doing unto others ......etc etc.
What do you think?
Question for you Ed_Blue
Posted by
(VIP) 16 Aug 2005 11:58pm
How is your blood pressure? lol
I have said it before and I'll say it again and again. IGNORE THEM...if you join their table and play and they don't wish to respond to your good manners and friendliness ..well SO WHAT? 'To thine own self be true' is a quote I've always liked, and if you continue to be a good example it will rub off on some, but there are many that aren't going to change and you should join me in just accepting that and enjoy the players that live up to your expectations.
As for me I think this subject has been dwelled on enough and I for one won't be responding to it from now on. I'm sure we can come up with something else to discuss. 
JAG - Girl
Posted by
Ed_Blue
(VIP) 17 Aug 2005 1:11am
I really don't care if people don't respond but there are times that a response is needed. If I beat someone 200 I believe I have an obligation to respond. I don't win all the time, as evidenced by my fluctuating rating, but I do have my share of Schneides and I've been saying 'sorry' or 'better luck next time.' Vice Versa, when someone whips me say something to either bring me out of shock at the cards being dealt or just the fact that my luck, like all other's, can change overnight.
As I said, this is my opinion and it's healthy to discuss where the flaws are or if there is agreement of disagreement. I would give myself a mark in the higher 90's, I would guess 98%, for being polite and being a good sport when winning and especially when losing.
You have every right to your own opinion and I agree with your observations. My issue is not silence but the appropriate thing to do at that particular time.
I was just a mid 1700 player earlier this week and I'm now somewhere in the mid 1500's. Yep, even I admit I'm human and I can be wrong. My fault, if you consider it a fault, is that I enjoy the FORUM format and the oppotunity to discuss these things with other players. I did notice when I stopped posting to the FORUM months ago this conversation was not going on other than to say happy birthday or tell a joke.
On other words, we all have opionions and all are correct based on specific circumstances. The operative is 'specific circumstances.'
Charlie
Posted by
Ed_Blue
(VIP) 17 Aug 2005 1:25am
My blood pressure is steady at 110/70 and the reason for these discussions is to stimulate chat amongst people with the common interest of Gin Rummy. That is what the FORUM is all about. Look at the number of replies to this thread alone. People, other than me, are seeing and experiencing the same things and we should discuss them. I agree, there has been quite a bit of verbage on this subject but that's a good thing.
The doing away with the 'BAN' button is another subjest but that's 100% under the control of GC. 'Slow Play' has been an issue for years. Even GC jumped on the ban-wagon on that one and gave us the option of selecting a time for a move 'less than 5 minutes.' 'Rudeness' is the most aggravating of them all and we've all seen it.
I agree with you that all you have to do is turn the other cheek and it will go away but that is wrong. It will only get worse. I know you've been around for a while and can tolerate the rude behaviour and so can I but put yourself in the place of a newbie or a less experienced player and then consider what your saying.
Just a few weeks ago a player tried to hook-up with a much higher rated player and was turned down. The lower rated player asked again and the higher rated player told her that if he were to play with her 'it would be her privelege to learn from his greatness and experience.' Now that's bad.
Oops, there goes another issue. How about making it mandatory, or giving ladder points, to players who play with lower rated players so they can get more experience? Let them go against one of the better players and see why they always seems to be so lucky. It's not luck, its the way they play their cards. The person that wiped me out of the 10:30 HR tourney tonight runs in streaks. I beat him last night but when he gets hot, watch out. The man goes out on no more than the third card every hand. There is a super woman that also seems to excel when the pressure is on. I don't know how but she consistantly pulls the plug. I guess I'm going to call her 'the Closer' from now on. I asked her earlier if she was a realtor becuase she closes better than any other player on GC, except for one.
Sorry to tempt you into a reply but this is what the Forum is all about.
Ed
Posted by
jag-girl
(VIP) 17 Aug 2005 8:57am
This game, forum, is all just a form of distraction from real life. To take any of it too seriously would be unfortunate. Ed- if I could wish anything upon you it would be to maintain your sense of humor. I chuckled at your 'no fingers' reference in your previous post. That was funny.
If you continue to become upset, chasing people in and out of tourneys, demanding politeness, you may forget how to laugh altogether.......
In the meantime, forgive me if I find your self appointment as the 'Polite Policeman' a wee bit amusing....
JAG - Girl
Posted by
Ed_Blue
(VIP) 17 Aug 2005 12:11pm
I love that name, 'Polite Policeman'. I've been called a lot of things but this is a first. My goal was to get the Forum juives up and flowing as it once was. There have been 40 repsonses to this posting and that is not a bad thing if even one person thinks before they react or don't react because of this.
Have fun; I do.
Ed
Posted by
jag-girl
(VIP) 17 Aug 2005 12:29pm
I must admit, this whole discussion has made me think twice about one thing. I do admit, that from time to time, I have used the BAN button. Yes, I admit it and I apologize to the Polite Policeman for my shameful behavior.....It's just so tempting but, I promise to never do it again. Unless, of course, I'm dealing with a rude player.
I'll have to ad a few extra Hail Marys to my prayers on Sunday.
JAG-
Posted by
Ed_Blue
(VIP) 17 Aug 2005 7:42pm
You are forgiven
more rudeness from unlikely players
Posted by
(VIP) 18 Aug 2005 12:39am
I played against and beat one of the players who has played the most games on GC and he as usual when he loses waited the entire minute before hitting the continue button. This person never says gg or gl or anything yet he has played in over 10,000 matches.
Dzaffron
Posted by
Ed_Blue
(VIP) 18 Aug 2005 5:13pm
That is amazing although there is one wonderful player, she, that has a bad habit or forgetting and always delaying hitting thr 'Continue Button' unless she wins. This was also the case of the person that left me that first rude note.
I believe GC can correct this problem easily by bypassing the 'Continue Button' at the end of every match when the designated score is reached. I know how frustrating this is when you win and want to go on but the loser won't hit that button. I've even had a time when I had to wait a full 5 minutes for the timer to run out after the first five minutes to get the win. This is a sad, but ver correctible, situation.
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